Przemek Lowicki and Jana Pokrovskaya
Wiktor Kiszka and Malgorzata Garlicka
from Poland
We met the four of them in the foyer of the Bournemouth International Centre during
the UK Open 2004 when Wiktor and Malgorzata were preparing for the Amateur
Standard competition and Przemek with Jana were there to support them, recovering
from the previous day of competition.
Who are they?
Przemek Lowicki [from Poland]
Jana Pokrovskaya [from Russia]
Przemek and Jana are Amateur Latin dancers. In the UK Open 2004 they were placed
14 (in the quarter final round) in the Amateur Latin event. Przemek with his ex-partner
Kinga Jurecka won the Amateur Rising Star Latin two years ago at the UK Open 2002.
Jana with her previous partner Benedetto Ferruggia were the World Cup 10 Dance winners
in 2002 and the IDSF European 10 Dance champions. Przemek and Jana represent Poland
- see their results page
Wiktor Kiszka [from Poland]
Malgorzata Garlicka [from Poland]
Wiktor and Malgorzata are Polish Amateur Standard champions. Recently they were
placed 4th in the Copenhagen Open 2004 and reached the semi final of the Amateur
Rising Star Standard at the UK Open 2004 - see their
results page
When did you start dancing?
Przemek: "I started dancing ballroom and latin fifteen years ago when I was
seven"
Jana: "I started with ballet when I was six"
Wiktor: "I started dancing when I started school, I was eight then"
Malgorzata: "I can't remember [laughs]. How old are you when you were in
your fourth year in school? Ten? I was ten when I started dancing then"
Wiktor : "Sorry! I forgot, I did Polish folk dance for two years."
Malgorzata: "OK, I have to admit that I did too"
Przemek: "And me! For the first year we did krakoviaks and polkas!"
[
all laugh]

How did you get together?
Malgorzata : "Me and Wiktor come from the same small town in Poland - Stalowa
Wola. And first time we met was in kindergarten! And I have to stress here that
there is more than one kindergarten in Stalowa Wola!! We kept on bumping into each
other ever since [laughs]. So we've known each other for ages. But seriously,
we started dancing together in 1996 or 1997. It was the summer holidays. Oh, I just
cannot believe we are already seven years together!!"
Wiktor: "It was 1996"
Malgorzata: "Yes, 1996. But he had many partners before me - he travelled
half the world for them [both laughing]"
Wiktor: "Malgorzata didn't have a partner for three months then. We met at
her place and somehow decided to give it a try together. I still had a partner then,
we split up the next day after I asked Malgorzata!"
Przemek: "We met each other on a 'casting' like a boys band [laughs].
It was all carefully prepared, we both knew each other's results, we have seen each
other on the floor and we knew each other's expectations. They were very similar
so it made sense to get together then."
Jana: "It was like this really! We knew each other's successes and we just
decided to have a try-out"
Przemek: "After we decided to dance together we learned that there are more
similarities between us! We come from similar backgrounds, we were raised the same
way, we have similar education, interests, sense of humour and even our parents
are very similar! But my parents are cooler!!! [Przemek and Jana laughing]"
Jana: "No, mine are!!"
So who arranged your try-out?
Jana: "I arranged our try-out, it was the next day after Przemek danced Blackpool
last year"
Przemek: "I knew then for some time that my previous partnership was not
working and I made up my mind already to talk to Yulia [his previous partner was
Yulia Rogozina -Ed.] about a split"
Jana: "And I was without a partner then for two or three months already.
I came to Blackpool to search for a partner"
Przemek: "No, you didn't!! [laughs]. You just came for holidays!"
Jana: "I worked then in Moscow, very hard, eleven hours a day [Przemek: she
was only working for the money!] and I needed a break!! And then I found
Przemek"
Opinions, views....
How does your personal relationship relate to dancing?
Przemek and Jana: "We try not to mix our private life and dance. We are the
best of friends, we go to the cinema, we like watching films together but on the
dance floor we are just dance partners. Jana had bad experiences in the past with
mixing these two lives"
Wiktor and Malgorzata: "It helps us that we are together. We know
each other so well"
Malgorzata : "I often know what he wants to say, what he wants
to do when we are practising. We have no problem with communication whatsoever"
What is in your opinion the best country to dance?
Malgorzata : "England and Norway. You get the beautiful studios there. In
Norway we dance on the best floor ever, it's made from oak. And we have the best
coach in the world: Tor Floysvik. His studio is the best for us now. Competitons?
Everywhere you can get good ones. I haven't got a favourite.... Maybe Blackpool"
Jana: "England and Poland for training and practice. Blackpool is my favourite
competition"
Przemek: "I must say that the best conditions for us for practice and training
are in Poland. We can do everything we want there! We have the floor and music for
ourselves. Poland is also the best for me for competitons, I have the greatest and
most supporting audience there!"
Wiktor: "Blackpool for competition, Norway for training - we have the best
and the largest floor for our disposal! It's even bigger than Blackpool"
Malgorzata : "Once, when practicing in Blackpool, we had to move surrounding
chairs because our routine was prepared for the bigger floor!!"
What would you like to do if were not dancing?
Malgorzata: "I would definitely finish my education! I could be an astronaut...
[laughs ]"
Wiktor : "I would probably play tennis if I couldn't dance. I would probably
go to University and read International Relations Studies or something similar like
Political Studies"
Personality....
What is your favourite dance, ballroom and latin?
Przemek: "I am not sure.... Rumba, I think. It very much depends on how good
I am and the 'level of competence' and how much I practiced. I just like to dance
my best! Recently it's Samba and Jive because somehow I feel it very well, I can
feel my body dancing it! But Rumba is very special for me, it was always the favourite,
the easiest, I can dance it every day, morning or night. I am waiting now for Paso
Doble"
Jana: "Unlike Przemek, I can dance Paso! [laughs]"
Wiktor: "My favourite is Foxtrot and the Waltz, in latin is Samba"
Malgorzata: "The Waltz or the Quickstep. But I like them all. Cha-cha and
Rumba are my favourite latin dances. I could never dance Samba or Tango, I was always
too skinny, now I put up some weight and got better in it [laughs]"
Przemek: "If we are talking about ballroom it's the Waltz"
Malgorzata: "Bravo Przemek, I though you'd say Tango"
Jana: "For me it's the Waltz and the Tango!"
What is your biggest dream?
Malgorzata: "I think that every dancer has the same dream. I would like everything
work out as I planned. That's if we are talking about dancing"
Wiktor: "To reach the highest level of dancing, the highest possible level.
Also having good results would be nice" [laughing]
Jana: "Be happy. I want to be happy in whatever I am doing, in dancing and
in life"
Przemek: "I would like to be able to dance in such a way that my body tells
the story and the music is not needed anymore! This is what matters to me now, I
realise that I don't think about anything more serious like starting a family just
yet. However, I am afraid that if my dream doesn't come true I can end up alone
and bitter and disappointed....
But dancing is the most important thing for me right now."
What is your biggest nightmare?
Jana: "Hmmmm...." [All laughing. Come on Jana, say it in Russian
if you must, we will understand]
Malgorzata: "I had this dream several times that I am in the changing
room, no make-up, no hair dance and not ready for the competition. Everyone else
is on the floor, the music starts and I am totally unprepared!"
Jana: "Me too!! Exactly the same! Or another nightmare that someone I love
dies... Terrible"
[boys are thinking hard....]
Przemek: "The biggest nightmare is to lose loved ones, like Mum or Dad. But
honestly, not being able to do make-up on time...."
Malgorzata:"I swear I had a dream like that!! And it feels awfull, all that
stress. Sorry boys, maybe we women are a bit shallow [laughing ]. Hold
on, Wiktor didn't answer that!! I bet he is now thinking of how to dance Foxtrot
rather than about this interview!!."
What are you afraid of?
Przemek: "Retirement! I know that one day we will have to finish our dancing
and I am afraid that people will forget about us. One day it will happen, when I
am sixty or seventy"
Jana: "To put on weight!"
Przemek: "True. Jana has this obsession about it just like her mom. Jana
would pay all the money if she thought she needed to lose weight! In fact she did
it one day, she had this treatment, they wrapped her in sheets, made her sweat and
all that. It costed fortune, but I must say the effect was very good [Jana laughing
]. Or she is more afraid of her mom!"
Malgorzata: "I am always afraid of losing someone I love. I know that one
day my parents will die and I am really afraid of this day. Because dancing means
so much to me I am always afraid of any injury which would stop my dancing career.
It happened to me once, it was a serious injury and everyone feared that I may end
up on a wheelchair. There was a desision my parents had to make, do I have an operation
or not. The nerves could get damaged. But it all ended up well"
Wiktor : "I am afraid of being alone"
Your favourite food?
Jana: "Italian, American and Chinese"
Przemek : "No, no I'll tell you Jana's favourite dish: Italian pasta with
tuna and tomato sauce, it's called pasta al tonno. And mozarella, tomato and basil
salad. I'll tell you how she likes it: the tuna must be freshly prepared and ....
"[Stop, stop, how do you spell it? - Ed.]
Malgorzata: "I bet she eats it every other day in Poland!!" [laughs]
Przemek: "Yes, Jana eats it every other day in Poland!! And kebab in London!!
My favourite food is all dairy products: milk, yoghurt, cheese. I always liked them,
even as a child. Do you know this cream skin on milk? Everybody but me in my kindergarten
hated it!! Yummy!! [everyone is disgusted - Ed. ]"
Malgorzata: "What do I like? I like everything, I like all sorts of meat
products, I like Italian pastas, vegetables... "
Wiktor: "Polish food e.g. bigos [A Polish dish consisting of layers of sauerkraut
with cooked meats such as venison, chicken, duck, ham or sausages. The layers are
buttered, stock is poured over all and the casserole is baked slowly to allow the
flavors to mingle. Tradition says that bigos should be made several days in advance
because it is best when reheated - Ed. ]"
Any food you hate?
Przemek: "English food. Just simply awful, especially breakfast. I can't
eat sausages, baked beans and scrambled eggs for breakfast" [All laughing. Stop
here Przemek, we're publishing it all! - Ed.]
Jana: "Rice and seafood"
Przemek: "And she doesn't like cooked vegetables. So in the restaurant she
gives them to me, I like them."
Malgorzata: "I don't like liver, seafood and milk! I like dairy products,
drinking chocolate, cocoa but I hate milk. We live in Norway but I don't like their
food"
Przemek : "What's Norwegian food?"
Malgorzata: "Fish. No salt, no spices just pure fish"
Wiktor: "I don't like fruit soups [Malgorzata - me neither!!]. Just
the smell of it is a killer for me. Awful"
What is your favourite pet?
Jana : "Dogs"
Przemek: "Big dogs. You can relate to them, you can talk to them"
Malgorzata: "I like animals but never had any pets. I prefer others
to have pets"
Wiktor: "The only pet I ever had was a canary bird. But I like big dogs and
I hope I will have one in a future"
What is your favourite hobby?
Jana: "We just don't have time for one"
Przemek: "I like drawing, but now I don't have time. I was always the best
in drawing and painting in school, I was always the fastest and I had good grades"
Wiktor: "I like watching films, going to the cinema. I also like running"
Przemek: "Is it normal to want to get sweaty?! If I want to sweat I'll go
to the sauna!" [All laughing]
Wiktor: "Look, if I don't dance for three days I really feel my muscles aching!
I need physical activity"
Malgorzata: "I like running when I have time. I like to spend free time actively
if I can. I like watching TV"
Wiktor: "Yes, watching TV is very active! [all laughing] Using your
remote control..."
Jana: "We like going to the cinema if we have time, me and Przemek like watching
good films"
Your nicest memory?
Przemek: "Visit to Indonesia. It was really great, I stayed on the Lombok
island, much less known part of the country, you cannot find it on a map. Tourists
rarely get there, they usually visit Bali or something like that. It was brilliant,
we swam in the ocean, saw the coral reefs.... great. We lived in a beach hut for
a week and had a colonial-era shower: a hollowed calebassa fruit filled with water,
you just had to pull the plug and you had a shower!"
Jana: "When I was a student.... being with all the friends from University
in Moscow"
Malgorzata and Wiktor: "We will always remember the day we first won the
Polish championships"
Jana: "I will remember winning the German Open in 1996"
Przemek: "Jana danced for Russia then. The Germans played the Soviet Union
national anthem, instead of the Russian, by mistake!! But Soviet Union hadn't existed
then for six years! Jana was laughing but her mom cried"
Partnership....
What is your partner's biggest virtue and biggest flaw?
Jana : "Przemek is very intelligent, he is a real gentleman and such a nice
and likable person, but quite impatient"
Przemek: "Jana is very patient, she doesn't let problems affect her. And
she is a very experienced partner. But at the same time she is too nice, it's her
flaw, she doesn't fight with me for what she wants [laughs]"
Malgorzata: "My partner Wiktor can work hard and he is very determined to
achieve his goals. But at the same time he is modest. He cooks very well too!"
Wiktor : "You're a hard worker as well! And she's very honest, so honest
that it hurts sometimes! But it's good. She is strong and it helps us to get through
all our problems. But one thing I really hate about her is that she is so messy"
Malgorzata : "And your problem is you're never on time!"
What is your biggest virtue and biggest flaw?
Malgorzata: "I don't like to talk about myself!! OK, I admit that I am very
honest and determined to achieve my goals. Just like Wiktor."
Jana: "I think I am very patient and I respect other people! [that's why
she doesn't argue with you Przemek - Ed.]"
Malgorzata: "I don't believe in me - that's my problem"
Wiktor: "I admit that it's true what Malgorzata said about me, that I am
never on time. My big problem is that I often forget about such things... But when
I work, I work very hard"
Przemek: "I am very artistic person and have a good taste for art and music
[all laughing], my problem is that I am impatient and sometimes an egoist
[but charming! ]"
Passion....
What was your biggest argument about?
Jana: "We only argue about dancing!"
Przemek: "The better we are, the less we argue! We haven't argued for the
past three weeks! [laughs]"
Do you fight often?
Przemek: "Less and less, because we are getting better in dancing!"
Witek : "We have sometimes silly arguments about dancing, but we make sure
that it doesn't affect our private life, our relationship"
Friendship....
What is most important for you in friendship?
Malgorzata: "The most important is honesty and trust"
Wiktor : "I agree 100%"
Jana : "For me too, I have two close friends"
Przemek: "I always had a lot of friends but I never could describe them as
close friends. I think that it is difficult to get very close to someone because
of our life style. We just never have time to commit to friends"
Have you got a time for friends and activities other than dancing?
Malgorzata : "Not really, no time"
Jana : "We know lots of people but I wouldn't call them friends. I have three
very close girl friends and that's all. They understand if I cannot spend as much
time with them as I like. But when we meet it is just like time stopped!"
Malgorzata : "My best friends are my parents, I have very good contacts with
them. But I just have no time for other friends. In a friendship you have to commit
yourself and I know I cannot do it because my dancing is more important"
Wiktor : "Me and Malgorzata are best friends and we spend all the time with
each other"
Przemek: "Me and Jana share the same sense of humour and it keeps us together"
Are your best friends dancers as well?
Wiktor: "I think it is difficult to have good friends amongst the dancers
of the same category, the same style"
Jana: "...or the similar level"
Malgorzata: "Well, it is hard enough to find good friends within dancers
of a different category! I am afraid that there is always an element of jelousy..."
Przemek: "For four of us it is OK because we live so far from each
other [all lauging] and we don't know each other that well. Wiktor and
Malgorzata live in Norway, we travel between Russia, Poland and England, we meet
each other very rarely. I have some friends still amongst dancers, we text each
other, we greet each other on the competitons"
Malgorzata: "OK. But is it friendship?"
Przemek: "Well, not the close friendship but still something"
Malgorzata: "It is sad, isn't it? Dancing is such a beautiful sport but there
is a lot of dirt as well. Some people smile to you but you know that they wish you
all the worst! They hope you won't reach that next round. Maybe it is natural, because
if we lose they can win!"
Przemek: "Sometimes you know you deserve to win and sometimes you
know you deserve to lose. You don't have to wish your competitors the worst! Just
dance your best."
Jana: "And you can be genuinely happy when others win if you feel
they deserve it"
Fun, holidays, relaxation....
What is your favourite book or film?
Malgorzata : "'A Beautiful Mind' is my favourite"
Wiktor : "'Life is Beautiful' by Roberto Benigni"
Could you describe your dream holiday?
Jana: "I would like to see Cuba one day. To see the country where the Rumba
originates from [laughs]. Another choice is Russia - I love my country
and love spending holidays in there"
Przemek: "Jana is very patriotic"
Malgorzata: "I never had any real holidays, there was always either
a money problem or dancing. But if I didn't have any of these problems I would like
to go some place nice, with someone I love or like very much. It is difficult to
choose a place really because I have been to many countries but I have seen only
the dance halls and airports there! I would like to be able to relax for a week
or two and forget about all my problems and worries!"
Jana: "I always wanted to see Niagara but I am afraid that I won't find time
to see it before I am sixty!"
Malgorzata : "One is always lacking time or money to do it. I must
admit that if I had enough money to just go and buy a ticket to fly to USA and see
Niagara I would probably choose to spend it on more dancing lessons [all laughing
- lack of time is an excuse, admit it, it is just a matter of choice! - Ed.]"
Przemek: "We travel the world so much but we never see anything.
I think I would like to visit these places again but not because of dancing. I would
like to learn more and see more of them"
Malgorzata : "I agree. We were so many times in England, in London
but never got to see Big Ben!"
Przemek: "I have seen Big Ben, but it was quite funny for the first
time. We got off the tube station and first thing we saw was the Big Ben tower and
I was so dissapointed because it wasn't that big at all! I imagined it to be much
taller [All laughing. Przemek: maybe it wasn't Big Ben at all? - Ed. ].
I am sure it was the famous one, next to the Parliament buildings and Westminster
Abbey! The place I would like to go to is Mazury [Polish lake district - Ed.],
all these places I went to as a child with my parents. I love the lakes, the forest,
it's really beautiful there."
Wiktor: "I would like to see as many places in the world as possible
with someone close. I would also like to visit my sister in USA who I haven't seen
for two years"
Jana: "Oh, that's sad"
Have you got time for holidays?
Malgorzata : "Good question!"
Przemek : "Well, we dance so much that we cannot afford a break. Hence we
never have time for holidays. So about a half a year ago I came to the conclusion
that either I treat my whole life as holiday or don't have holidays at all. Now
whenever and wherever we go dancing we try to use it as holidays. So I have constant
holidays now!"
Malgorzata: "Unfortunately me and Wiktor have to work as well"
Przemek: "OK, true. I have to take breaks for earning some money. Obviously
it's not holidays then"
Malgorzata: "We work all the time. It feels like 24 hours a day. Seriously,
it's at least 12 hours. And then we practise dancing. We work to earn money to be
able to pay for our dancing. We need holidays but...."
Wiktor: "We plan to take some time off this summer"
Malgorzata: "We had some holidays last year for the first time, five days
in Hungary. We loved it. And this year we plan to put some money aside and do it
again."
You compete abroad a lot � do you try to make a holiday out of it?
Przemek : "Always. As much as we can"
Malgorzata: "But so often it's just an airport, hotel and dance floor. In
our free time we sit in a coffee shop and give an interview! [laughing]"
[OK, but, say, here in the seaside town of Bournemouth, did you find for instance
some time to go and visit the beaches or cliffs? - Ed.]
Przemek: "I have seen the cliffs of Bournemouth two years ago!"
Wiktor: "For us it is usually just dancing and straight after the competition
we go back to Oslo [they live and train in Norway - Ed.]"
Malgorzata: "And straight from the airport we go back to work"
Przemek: "But don't you agree that sometimes you really can organise some
free time, sometimes it is just a matter of a little bit of effort?"
Malgorzata: "We really can't. It's the type of work we do, we just cannot
take too many breaks. Taking time off for competitions is enough. We are just in
this kind of situation now. Last year in Barcelona [European championships - Ed.]
most dancers arrived early or stayed couple of days more for holidays. For us it
was work until late night on Thursday, flight in the morning on Friday, dancing
on Saturday and back in Norway on Sunday"
Are you happy to try foreign, exotic food?
Przemek: "It's a question for Jana. And the answer is: No! She just eats
pasta al tonno [laughs]"
Jana: "I know! I really like tuna"
Przemek: "I like to try new things, everyday something new. Once in Croatia,
I have eaten a whole calamari, and I mean whole, with eyes and head [all laughing].
It just tastes like rubber!"
Malgorzata : "I am usually very careful. I watch Wiktor and if he says that
the food tastes good I try it then. Sometimes it's not as good as he says!! And
I like the food to look good, it must look tasty to me"
Jana: "Me too!"
Malgorzata: "If something doesn't quite look tasty I just won't try it!"
Wiktor: "I like to try new tastes!"
Malgorzata: "And many times you were so disappointed [all laughing]"
Przemek: "Once in a Hong Kong I was just hungry and decided to buy something
off the street, it looked like some body parts fried on a stick. Jana didn't want
it, she was waiting for a proper restaurant! But it was so good, and I didn't know
what I had"
Future...
Plans for the future?
Malgorzata : "I would like to achieve a really high level in dancing, be
happy and content with myself. Results will come with it"
Wiktor: "I would hate to end up bitter and alone, like so many dancers who
didn't quite reached the top. I would like to have family but somehow connected
to dancing"
Malgorzata: "I would like a family and a child one day [laughs].
But if we talking about work, I would like to become a judge and a teacher."
Jana: "I am happy now with the way my dancing career progresses. I would
like to continue it"
Przemek : "I think that it is important to do what makes you happy. I am
happy now dancing and I want to find even more pleasure in it and in all these little
things that make the difference!"
Thank you very much and good luck for the future!