No Humility!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

   
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No Humility!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dienstag, 3. November 2009 22:39

 Hi everyone

I am a professional Male currently taking time off the floor, have developed an incredibly successful dance school of over 400 students in all styles of dance.

Why is it that young competitors, who come to my school for lessons, make the atmosphere crap, they are unwilling to change anything cos they already think they are slavik and their parents well are just fully rude as well. 

I totally hate the arrogance of it all. I mean we all have preferences of what we like a teacher to be, and that's ok, but there is no need to be so bloody rude.

I feel better now iv got that  off my chest.

 

 

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Re: No Humility!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mittwoch, 4. November 2009 13:43

Exactly   !!!!   

" No Humility !!!",       such  an appropriate title for your  so many obvious challenges. 

 Another name ....Kettle calling  the Pot black .

Suggest you start with yourself ..... any psychologist would  make you feel even better than you already feel.  Start with  your attitude. 

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Freitag, 6. November 2009 04:16

I don't think cooldude is being inappropriate, he is just giving his opinion and a pet peeve I have heard many a time. Some of these kids are mommy and daddy's little prince and princess and can do no wrong.  For others it's a case of the parents living their dreams through their children.  I am not saying all kids are annoying but I too find many are. 

At one studio I go to some of the kids come in to practice and crank the music, totally ignoring the fact that people are there taking lessons and can no longer hear their instructor.  Other kids dance around and through everyone with no respect to the other people.  Many times I have seen very rude and obnoxious behaviour with not a word of correction from the watching parents.  In the bathrooms they leave garbage sitting around and will damage the furniture with not a care in the world.   Even at the main location of the competitions they have created damage to the point where the location was almost ready to not allow the competitions at their location.  Perhaps if they have to start paying for damage done then it will change.

On the other hand there are a few kids, sadly the minority, who are very well behaved and a pleasure to be around.  

I don't care who the kids are nor what level, they should learn to be considerate to others as they would like others to be toward them.  Another of the studios I go to do not teach kids for just the reasons cooldude mentions.

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Re: No Humility!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Freitag, 6. November 2009 14:33

Hi rugby.

No one suggested coolddude was inappropriate, in fact it was suggested the title was appropriate.

Cool dude, incredibly successful studio, over 400 ....no humility here, sound like incredible boasting ...

 Humility vs. Kids vs. dance competitors ?  Ask for respect, humility comes with  experience and age, it must be learnt ,  kids do not have it. 

With such incredible success you  would think cooldude  was a good businessman  who can attract  and cater  to needs of his students, is able to start, grow and manage his business, having  no problem  introducing  and  reinforcing  his incredibly successful school's rules and regulations, and / or to discipline the  few unruly "competitors" who may think they are Slaviks ...if  necessary  informing their pompous and equally rude and obnoxious parents to either change their  attitude, have atlk with their Slaviks,   or to  move on . So what if he should  lose 20 students.   That represent just 5% of his  incredibly successful dance school and he  would probably attract more students as the atmosphere would become friendlier and cooldude would be more relaxed. 

I was  not sure if cooldude  described  behaviour of just the small kids who attend classes with their parents.  I felt he talked about "competitors" as a group.  I am also aware of the  competitors' practice styles,   their lack of  respect for less able, slower, older, or social dancers ....not all, but a majority...even the top ones, who are often so self-absorbed in their practice they  kick,  hit or bump into those who are  unfortunate to be withing their  reach.  

Is it just possible the  school ( with over 400 pupils ) is overcrowded ? Not the right place for active dance competitors to practice, something which may frustrate their ambitious, trophies hungry parents ? 

However , if  the kids  are such a disaster, do not listen,  if they interfere with lessons, God forgive- touch  music, as you  Rugby  suggest, it is the fault of the owner, the manager who was obviously to slow, to weak, too unskilled, too shy, or too afraid to react  and discipline them, allowing  the  kid's  behaviour to deteriorate, possibly influence other kids to act same ...lids do push their luck, test and  try to see how far they get with their instructor, or the person in charge..

Live up to your  nickname cooldude and  explain to the parent and their unruly  child  how your  studio is run,  what you  expects of the child and the parent  and what behaviour you and your school cannot  and shall not tolerate.  

If you have lost the  kids, and their parents respect,  you are not cool dude  Cooldude becomes   Mat,  a  mat which is in your school to be stepped on, and such a school cannot be incredibly successful, unless you judge the success by having hundreds of unruly, obnoxious, spoiled, undisciplined kids who are allowed to do whatever they want oncluding making you upset, miserable and feeling helpless. 

You cannot fix the  problem if you do not see it,  Accept the responsibility for it and fix it.

Be cool dude and  repair what need be fixed,  I am sure you will be not only incredibly successful but also incredibly respected  by your students,  including those who compete , they will consider you a  cooldude. 

Good luck 

 

 

 

 

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Montag, 9. November 2009 21:10

I see your point and agree that what he has to do is set the ground rules for all to follow.  If he accepts the bad behaviour because he does not want to lose them as clients then they will soon realize that he can be easily walked over.  If it is such a great studio they will rather follow the rules than risk being kicked out.

I wish one of the studios I go to would lay down some ground rules for the kids.  If the parents will not give them direction then the studio owner and teacher should.  As you say "think of me", it escalates and other kids then realize the behaviour is tolerated.  The junior kids want to be like the senior ones and the bad behaviour is learned and passed on.   What cooldude may not realize is that these "bad" kids are also irritating his other students and they should not have to put up with the hassle just because he is not willing to deal with it.    I have had to speak with a few  kids and parents and I feel that this is not my job and should not have to be put in this position.  Perhaps some of his students have had to do or feel the same.

 As for competitors, sure there are a few bad ones but most I know try very hard to stay out of everyone's way.   My partner and I are open level competitors and we go above and beyond to make sure that we respect the studios and everyone associated with them.  At social dances everyone tells us how courteous we are and enjoy having us there.  We can all live in harmony if we respect each other.   

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Mittwoch, 11. November 2009 11:48

Hi think of me

Sorry if i pissed you off saying i had a large school, half of the students are my wife's who is a professional ballet/Contemporary dancer.

My issue, like i said in the text was with young competitors not ALL. And yes you are right, i should just call the shots and tell them to buck up their attitude or else go somewhere else.

Think your massage was a bit harsh, clearly made you mad that i am successfull!!!

YOu say i am too weak, to unskilled, to shy to afraid to react and discipline. Your probably right because every single one of my current students have respect and appreciation for the teachers so struggle to react as it is not in my personality to do so.

So all in all i appreciate your message and i will become much tougher in future

Thankyou